Cheaters in Our Sights
Posted July 20 at 11:00am | Author: R* Q | Filed Under: Games

We’d just like to let all fans and players of Red Dead Redemption Multiplayer know that we're aware a few rotten apples persist in the online world, trying to make the experience unpleasant for everyone else.  Obviously, these Multiplayer modes can be great fun when everyone is on the up-and-up, so to ensure we preserve the integrity of gameplay for all online, we are actively working on new features to counter against the isolated incidents of abuse that go on.

Our next title update, planned for release on both Xbox LIVE and PlayStation Network within the next month, will include measures to counter hacking and cheating.  Those who have been detected to be cheating beyond a shadow of doubt will be promptly banned from the Red Dead online world for a period of our discretion.

Additionally, the title update will provide some anti-grief relief with some new features in Free Roam.  Those who are being bullied repeatedly in Free Roam will be given the option to flee by Transporting and respawning in a region of the map of their choosing.  And those who are bullying repeatedly will face a new challenge: when a player gets a 6 kill streak in Free Roam, they will become "Most Wanted."  This alerts other players of their status as a player-killer, and also sends NPC law response after them.

Expect that we’ll continue to monitor the lay of the land and fight the good fight via future title updates to make sure everyone’s multiplayer experience is as fair and as fun as can be.

Thanks to everyone for all of your support and your patience - and we'll see you online...

323 comments on this article
Lushion
Love the game Rockstar, but some more features would be nice. It would be awesome if you could collect scalps of people you kill. Then on the social club it could show the gamer tags of all the scalps you've collected. Or if we could hold someone from another posse ransom, and build a whole mini game around that. Just some food for thought. Thx again for the game.
x0Hunt3r0x
Does headshot boosting on a private match with a couple of mates to get eachother golden guns count as *cheating* and therefor me being banned? i hope not because i have never boosted for my level and i have never modded or used that save game thing in my red dead career, pls respond, thanks :)
oy_josh
I made a horrible rockstar social club account just to say if you start banning people for modding then nobody is going to buy this game your whole company is about cheating and if they here about a rockstar game that doesnt have cheats your sales are goin down all i know is that im not playin rdr anymore so is all the modders on my friends list which is all 100 of them
Malbot
I saw someone the other day bragging how they knew everything about the the game and showed others a glitch to fly and walk through walls. I made it to level 50 despite being a very average shot and have been wasted by other players more times than I can count, but at least I died with honor and not like some scumbag hacker.
james10210
so i have to start all over!? not worth playin the game anymore...isnt there an internal backup save or something R*?
Geckstar
Cheating/Moding is NOT cool. It shows you to be a lazy idiot who can't even put in some serious gaming time. And those who whinge on here about this or that is boring - well then, don't play the game. Why cheat and then ruin the game experience for others? Do you honestly think people will look at you in awe because your level 50/5 but then you can't shoot for sh1t? Your still the rubbish crap player you always were and that is why you needed to cheat/mod because it's the only way you'll advance in the game..... BUT, we all have the power of choice and if that is what you want to do then fine but as it states in the statement above from Rockstar "......we're aware a few rotten apples persist in the online world" and it is only a FEW rotten apples.

Part of the EULA with Rockstar and Red Dead redemption is "You agre NOT to: h.Reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble, prepare derivative works based on or otherwise modify the Software, in whole or in part; - they hold the license to the game so if you break the license agreement they have every good right to kick you out of the Red Dead online world. And I hope they do - I hope it is not just talk.

As for spawn campers well they do it because it's the only way they can get an easy-ish kill. But the joy comes when that same camper gets his/her ass kicked after killing me once or twice - and then continues to get his/her ass kicked. Don't come after me if your not prepared for me to come after you!

It is hard work and you have to put the hours in and who says you need to only do the hideouts all the time? There are other types of games - shootouts, bag grabs etc. and they all give you XP so why sit in Free roam if it's so "boring"? Co-op missions? There is a lot of fun to be had in this game if you let your self and yes, it does frustrate me at times how slowly my XP creeps up but it pays off as I 4 out of 5 kills are headshots with the bolt-action and that comes from playing over and over again.

The new DLC should hopefully liven things up for those who are bored of the game. But tell me this, why keep on playing if it is so boring? Because at the end of the day it is an awesome game that calls you back for more!!

MaxWhitebear
I think that new respawning update is BS, All your doing is protecting the NEWBS that are the ones that are Bullying other players, You know how many times a lower leveled player killed me just because i have a Super bull and better weapons that ive earned, But when i go and get Payback i'm the one thats being punished. Do you guys actually play the game under diffrent names other then your know rockstar and reddev ones. Go in with your level 50 and see how many times a lower level kills you first and see if you dont get pissed when your getting killed when your leveling up in a Gang hideout or just exploring the area on your mount. Alll your doing is protecting the INSTIGATOR
R* Y
@10755651 @james10210 @10755651 and others, we have not banned anyone from the online experience quite yet, it sounds like you probably turned off your consoles while it was saving your game, thus corrupting your saves. All saves are stored locally on your console, and when we do begin banning cheaters they will not be reset to level one, they'll just plain be unable to play Red Dead online.
10755651
O.K. Rockstar i am officially tierd of your BS (reseting me back to lvl1) and i have this to say, i saw in an article that you said you would reset people to before they started cheating (ETC.) i went to 50 the first time LEGIT, and if you do not have the decency to put me back to AT LEAST the time i was LEGIT, then go to... yeah if i said it this may be called abusive... fix it Rockstar... just please fix this
james10210
ROCKSTAR I NEED DESPREATE HELP, PLEASE, i was playing single player and having fun catching a bounty and when i went to multiplayer, i lost my third legend(earned Legit) and i lost ALL my gold guns and now im at level 1, Rockstar i know your busy but PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS PROBLEM thank you
10755651
wow sry i didnt know i made 2 comments, but really, fix this problem R*
10755651
OK lemme get one thing straight Rockstar, and i hope your listening, I RANKED UP TO 50 THE FIRST TIME LEGIT... then alotta people used the hack thing, and multiplayer was getting REALLY Boring so i used the edited save (WHICH IS NOT CHEATING it is being smart) i was at Legend 3 lvl27, i wen t to multiplayer this morning and, im ALL THE WAY BACK TO LEVEL 1, ROCKSTAR, YOU BETTER GIVE ME MY LEGEND 3 LVL 27 BACK ASAP this is happening to alot of ppl and if you dont fix this asap A ALOTTA PPL WILL NOT BUY YOUR NEXT GAME, i know I WONT
10755651
OK lemme get one thing straight Rockstar, and i hope your listening, I RANKED UP TO 50 THE FIRST TIME LEGIT... then alotta people used the hack thing, and multiplayer was getting REALLY Boring so i used the edited save (WHICH IS NOT CHEATING it is being smart) i was at Legend 3 lvl27, i wen t to multiplayer this morning and, im ALL THE WAY BACK TO LEVEL 1, ROCKSTAR, YOU BETTER GIVE ME MY LEGEND 3 LVL 27 BACK ASAP this is happening to alot of ppl and if you dont fix this asap A HELL OF ALOTTA PPL WILL NOT BUY YOUR NEXT GAME, I SURE AS HELL WONT
ShadowsReview
LOVE THE GAME!!! In my review this game never gets boring even though i got it 4 months ago!
11251022
@11209039 im totally with ya, im legit, nd i dont mind at all these modders to be honest, nd those people who are compalining GET A LIFE , I know how it feels when someones spawn killing you, I think if you get a 6 killstreak on the same person u get the law on you fair enought, but bring more interesting things into multiplayer FREE! nd if its true we have to PAY for things like tht dlc with minigames nd poker, this game will lose a lot of popularity, everyone will go running bk to COD for god sake, if i where u rockstar id start listening more to EVERYONE nd try to perfect Red Dead b4 christmas, if not alot of people will just get bored of this nd buy COD7! If not halo or MoH at fall if you dont start LISTENING!!!!
drew1133
Trains in multiplayer would be nice and add somthing new to game for people to wage war over. Also the six kill rule is a great way to keep people from dropping the game and making the game less fun for everyone.
11209039
One of my posts was "abusive" most likely due to the A-bomb. Which is kind of funny since it is in a forum owned by a company who's best games are anything but proper and are rated M for Mature. So I will reword it for the little kiddies in here, who shouldn't be in here mia. Jerks (is that ok?) who spawn camp and bully will continue to do so regardless whether or not they are a modded level 50-5th or a legit level 22. In fact, of all the times I've been "bullied" it was always the posses of legit players doing it. But I mean, come on. Everyone needs to grow up. Anyone with a PC, flashdrive and half a brain can edit their game saves as to take the shortcut to getting 50-5th. If you want to penalize us modders, eliminate us from the social club. That seems fair. Keep such little competitions for the legit players only. Again, all you guys are doing is pissing off a huge portion of your customers and lowering your own profits. You can't stop editing gamesaves without building a better platform (or not make such information to be stored on our hard drive). So really, Rockstar is to blame...not us. We're just doing what our equipment and such allows us to do. You want to give someone trouble, go talk to microsoft about their "unhackable" system lol. Remember that? They said the xbox 360 was unhackable? HAHAHAHA...jokes Any way, yeah. Most of the modders I ran into were pretty chill...but like any group, especially legit kids, there are good and bad.
GeneralDaz
11209039 your absolutely rite because i just played a game of red dead now and i was spawned by el presidio, the guys there kept spawn killing me with the cannons and when i started killing all 4 of them by myself with nothing but my sniper and pistol they called me a cheater and because i have 7 golden guns out of the possible 23 or wteva im somehow "gay". so yh i think your rite, no matter wt i do, no matter wt level i am and no matter how i kill a person, people are always gonna call you a cheater/modder/hacker. my friend was reported for hacking throwing knives, when all he did was use dead eye but people are too stupid to realise u can use dead eye with throwing knives.
11209039
@general Diaz, regardless, if you are good you'll be called a modder/cheater and people will get infuriated when you beat them. I play Left 4 Dead a lot. On that game, there is no way of modding or hacking. However, I'm good...really good. I have turtle beach which allows to me hear precisely what is going on in the game. And I have been called modder/hacker/cheater literally thousands of times. I used to keep a cheat counter and even though I started very let with it, I got up to 1512 accusations. 90% of the people I've played avoided me because of that game. I've been accused of so many impossibly asinine things it is not even funny. And on that game it is not even possible to mod. People don't like to lose or believe they are not the best players at a certain game. In their minds, they are the greatest player to ever play (whatever game) and if someone beats them they MUST be cheating. So, sorry to break it to you. Even if Red Dead was unmoddable, if you do exceptionally well, the losers will play the cheating card every time. I've been accused of having a modded controller that allows me to play modded files on my xbox through the use of a sim card...WHAT?!?! That doesn't even make sense!!! lol Yet, it is only one of many of the imbecile things I have been accused of while playing Left 4 Dead. Anyone who is better is automatically labeled a cheater/hacker. All Rockstar is doing is pissing off 1/4 of their customers. The littler whiners will never be satisfied because, in reality, they are just bad at video games and will play the cheating card whenever it suits their purpose. Even IF (big if) they were to get rid of all the mods, glitches and exploits on that game, they would still get the same amount of complaints. Hey Rockstar, maybe you should actually try PLAYING some video games every now and then eh? Get into the thick of things and not rely on just comments left on your webpages and such? You know, accurate information from the REAL community. Not just the whiners who, of course, would take the time to come complain on your forums and in emails. Why don't you fix the map glitching instead? There is one of those "more important issues" I mentioned in my earlier post.
GeneralDaz
i agree with what you are saying 11209039, the multiplayer does get very dry, and altho im making my way up to level 50 legend 5 legitly i still dont find this game that boring when im playing with my friends. those who do mod r easy to distinguish like u sed, coss 9 times out of 10 there rubbish. so yes modding has no direct affect on players as there not causing much harm just taking a shortcut.

I just dont want to be accussed of modding when i reach that rank because a good 1/4 of games have modded 50's in, i dont mind them i just dont wanna be called one is all. and yh i agree alot more should have been added in the multiplayer, like trains, more people in the cities ect. its good tho that there including some mini games and more free roams aspects in the dlc.
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