Crew Cut: Stiff Competition

Posted on November 9 2012, 10:24am | Author: R* M | Filed Under: Social Club, Games


Since we challenged Social Club's top Crews to face off against a team of our Devs in Max Payne 3 Multiplayer, we've received a torrent of propositions - ranging from the polite to the... well, let's just call them 'fighting words'. On Monday October 29th we held a private throwdown with the Dutch Stoners in a 4v4 Soft Lock battle on Xbox 360. With the Devs rocking their fearsome Demonic skull masks, we took a clean sweep winning all five game modes in a Gang War at the bus depot. A Team Deathmatch went the way of the Dev Crew as well; they racked up an impressive 200 kills in the process. A Gang War at the docks was a slightly closer call, but ultimately our Devs ran out 3-0 winners over the course of the match.

We tip our hat to Slaughterhouse Crew who showed us a few weeks ago why they're one of the most feared Free Aim squads out there. After being given a lesson on Free Aim, we fear for the the Legends Of Red Dead Crew who seem to have their own private war with Slaughterhouse. If you two Crews ever organize a face-off, make sure you invite us so we can stream it on our Twitch page. 


On Thursday October 18th, we clocked up a glorious win in a nail-bitingly competitive matchup with The VII7 CrewGGretski and company came out strong, winning the first Team Deathmatch in Bus Depot by a handsome margin. Switching over to Gang Wars, our Devs proved their worth in Max Payne 3's signature multiplayer mode, opting for tight-knit tactics that paid off brilliantly. After losing an opening round of Deathmatch in the Favelas, our team was able to take a round of Short Fuse after the timer ran out with 3 seconds to go on a bomb planted on the bridge. Using this springboard to win the next two rounds comfortably, our Devs held on to take the match. GGretski admitted the loss was "embarrassing" in the Twitch chat but declined to comment on how he felt after we won another Gang Wars in the Hoboken Alleyways; if it's any consolation, GGretski, we've seen that end of the stick all too well ourselves, as you can read about below. You can also check out recordings of the full stream of this bout, and our other games and events, in the videos section of our page.

Prior to that, we took a convincing victory over our friends from the BrokenWhiskyBottles, who count amongst their ranks some of our most dedicated and hardcore fans. Ever gracious, even in defeat, ChicagoEnigma has come out said "This was so much fun, and entirely insane for us to do.. But I would not change a thing about it. It was a definitely a privilege to get to play against the Devs." Thanks Chicago! It was an honor to play against you lot as well. While we were streaming the game on our Twitch page, GermanScientist recorded his own gameplay perspective during the match and kindly uploaded it to YouTube. As the man says, "See 0:55:15 for a cool view when MaxPayneDev6 shot a RPG right in my face!" Sorry bout that!

We were less successful in our earlier Free Aim fixtures, losing decisively to elite Free Aim Crews Shinobi, Murders Death Kill and Ice Cold Assasins. Our Devs were humbled by the talent on offer - these squads put on a clinic in our two battles and showed the value in a Crew working together to hone razor sharp strategy, skill and coordination. Shinobi were featured all the way back in the third edition of the Crew Cut for their formidable Feud win percentage, and recently gave MLG Pro player Crream a sound beating on his own Twitch channel - something that Crew member Kenshiro360 proudly displays alongside their waxing of Rockstar in his profile Status. Congratulations to Kenshiro360 for taking Top Player in two of the games, and we have grudging respect of dRCrYSIS' strafe tactics with the PT92.


Back on Saturday October 10th, Ice Cold Assassins came out to represent PlayStation Crews against the Rockstar Dev Crew. They did their platform brethren proud, winning conclusively in all three Team Death Matches that we played.  We were intrigued to see Crew member hkl_100's tribute to his friend The M3rcad0's unusual tactic dubbed "No-Scope Sniping" in action. However, since being at the wrong end of an ass-whupping, the less we see of them in the future the better. Against Murders Death Kill Crew, our Devs cited FAARNSWORTH as a particularly fearsome shot with the sniper rifle. With the open ground covered, the rest of the team were able to outmaneuver our Devs and take a convincing victory in all three games.

And in our earliest of these bouts, the Rockstar Dev Crew faced off in an 8 vs 8 Team Deathmatch against the Elite Gamer Crew, who proudly boast the top 3 Team Deathmatch players on Xbox, IRAQDE3IL, LOSTBOY FOUND and MIShka Madness. While the Rockstar Dev Crew were able to claim their fair share of Feuds and lost by only seven kills in the Bus Depot, we again took an L in three straight sets to our worthy opponents - now a well-earned boast at the EGC Crew page ("WE BEAT THE DEVS 3-0 ... WELL DONE BOYS BIG UP"). However, during team practice the following day, the Rockstar Devs invited the Elite Gamer Crew for a behind-closed-doors off-camera rematch. With no one around to witness the game, both sides have controversially claimed victory, which can only mean that one final rematch is on the cards! Elite Gamer Crew, we'll be in touch.


We'll be announcing our next set of Private Throwdowns very soon. Make sure you check out our Twitch page to watch recordings of past games, and follow us at either Twitter or Facebook to get the word when we're kicking off our next matches (we'll also drop a heads up in comments here). To everyone else from a Crew who has challenged us so far, you should have received a reply to your email by now (if you've only very recently contacted us, then watch your inbox in the coming days); while we can't play everyone immediately, we're trying to get to as many, if not all, of you bit by bit you so please be patient. If you're a Crew with some cred at the top of one of the new tiered leaderboards by platform who'd like the chance to take us on, keep your Challenges coming in to


When Rockstar Games Social Club was relaunched back in May of this year, we gave out special tags to those Crews who were with us from Day One. (For those not in the know, two stripes on a Crew tag denotes a Founder Crew, which is a special designation granted to any Crew created before May 15). With the recent announcement of exclusive Day Of The Dead Skulls for our Founder Crews, we thought we'd take a Where-Are-They-Now look at which Founder Crews have stood the test of time, and made the most of their head start, as well as some who haven't quite lived up to their early hype.

Of the Founder Crews who currently boast full membership rosters, most have already earned at least one mention on the Crew Cut. SFO-Wolf however are one Founder Crew with a full headcount who have thus far been overlooked, despite being around since May 9th. In their time, they've put out some pretty serious emblems, but we particularly like the regal crest shown above. Crew leader pencil_dude splits his time with another Founder Crew PCC, who still rep hard across all three platforms after being featured in the very first edition of the Crew Cut.

While they may no longer be in the top ten private PS3 Crews, the Rising Angels are still putting in work in Max Payne 3 Multiplayer and maintaining an impressive 75% Feud win PCT, counting prominent Founder Crew Ganja Outlaws amongst their recent scalps. Having just tipped over in to the 101-300 tier of Xbox CrewsTennent's Special Crew maintain a dedicated Twitter account to boast of their status as the "Top Scottish" squad. Just behind them is another Founder Crew, The Sevens, this one with several color variations on an awesome 50s gun-totin' rockabilly chick. The Sevens also lay out a Communist manifesto in their status claiming that "there is no Crew leader, and that all members are the Crew." Marx Payne?

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  • RasendeFalkeon October 31 2015, 9:56amReplyFlag
    The GTA Halloween Update is perfect! Good Job Rockstar!
    • Disqualityzon October 24 2013, 4:18pmReplyFlag
      Well slaughter house is at the top in gta iv and v im XSX HOPSiN XHX
      • MarkingSoupon October 17 2013, 10:46amReplyFlag
        GroveSt Ride or Die

        Invites only.
        PS3 only.
        Only be in one crew, don't join others.
        Crew colors, Dark red
        Suggested car color, Black with White rims.
        People who speak English.
        Level over 30.
        Add MarkingSoup On PS3 :)
        And Social club :)
        Crew Tag, 'Ride'

        >> <<
        • nMsDembekon May 17 2013, 8:24pmReplyFlag
          • Qlw34kon November 30 2012, 8:56pmReplyFlag
            Max Payne 3 on Xbox360 and PS3 was really different than play on PC, i think rockstar crew was not so good on computer... ;-]
            • Snuseron November 30 2012, 8:01pmReplyFlag
              when will you finally feud a PC crew?
              • R* Xon November 20 2012, 2:20pmReplyFlag
                We're live on Twitch.TV battling the Ganja outlaws. Catch the action here:
                • EasedSpeedy456on July 2 2015, 3:05pmReplyFlag
                  @ I know this is quite an old post but I'd like to bring up a point that has been annoying me for months now, any crew that seems to be verified because of its unlimited member rate, it can stack up unlimited amounts of RP for the leaderboards, one example being the IGN Crew, as you go onto a members name it will say 'Crew Ranking 1' so they are top of the leaderboard, which I personally see as unfair as no other crews bar maybe the other verified crews are able to complete? Leaving all other non-popular crews like mine, which are also limited to 100 Members behind, can you please find a way around this? Maybe put the verified crews on a board of their own? Thank you.
              • el_serpeon November 18 2012, 2:56amReplyFlag
                Dear Rockstar, do you consider normal that AK47 and DAZE crews two days ago entered rank 2 and 3 of 1-5 tier leaderboards by kicking all their 50+ members to get down to 5 members? (but keeping xp worth for 50 members). We SERP, and other crews in the top ten like ICED or LOSC, were always playing with 5 members or less and it feels unfair to be surpassed in this way. While we can still beat them, some top crew with 150 million xp could one day do the same and enter 1-5 tier, then it would take 10 years for 5 members to beat them. What do you think? Should be there a system to prevent this, or the tier system do not mean anything and all crews can start this form of manipulation? Maybe this is normal and we are ---s for not doing the same, we should recruit 200 members for the next 3 xp weekend then kick them all the next monday? Not a big deal anyway :-) but I'd like hear your opinion, and also if other crews have opinions please comment. Thanks!
                • EnigmaAssassinon November 18 2012, 8:41amReplyFlag
                  @el_serpe I agree, but it's hard to think of a system to prevent this. I wouldn't want a crew to be limited to one division who may have inactive members that get kicked and the crew happens to fall to a lower division. Also, I wouldn't want small crews to be discouraged to expand. Maybe if a crew goes over 20 members and earns a certain amount XP in a short amount of time, they should be locked out of lower divisions to prevent XP padding. I think that would be fair.
                • el_serpeon November 18 2012, 9:02amReplyFlag
                  @EnigmaAssassin An idea to fix this simply could be the following: when a crew is in a given tier, its leaderboard tier could compute xp and rank by adding the XP of the current members only (or if we can be more sophisticated in computations, the xp of the members who didn't join in higher tiers), while in "overall" leaderboard it would show the whole xp.
                • Evolution24_7on November 18 2012, 10:51amReplyFlag
                  @el_serpe Agreed. I'm sure R* will figure out a way to best suit us in some new updates. It may even come down crew creation. When you first create a crew you are given options to what division you choose to compete in. 1-5 division will lock the crew to only 5 players and 6-20 will lock the crew to a max of 20 players and so on and so forth for the other divisions. This of course would limit the ability to expand your crew but if you wanted to expand you would have to choose wisely and crews that are in higher divisions will not be able to drop players to take top positions in the lower divisions because they will be locked to their tier. It may have to come down to locking the divisions although we lose the option of reducing and expanding.
                • R* Kon November 19 2012, 6:53amReplyFlag
                  @el_serpe Thanks for the feedback. The leaderboards are there for players to enjoy competing both as Crews and as individuals and we're always up for hearing how the system could be improved. We'll take this into consideration.
                • Mx_ALEX_xMon November 19 2012, 10:00pmReplyFlag
                  @el_serpe hahaha they deleted my message
                • FAARNSWORTHon November 24 2012, 6:35pmReplyFlag
                  @ It seems like an easy fix if the XP went with the player. If a player is in two crews, he can only gain XP for the specific crew he's using at the time, but if he/she leaves the crew or is kicked, the XP leaves with them. It would be nice if they were to rejoin the crew that the XP could be reinstated too. These are just suggestions, but I know that it's a lot more work than just putting it down on paper.
                • FAARNSWORTHon November 24 2012, 6:38pmReplyFlag
                  @el_serpe I agree! XP should leave with the player. Only the players that are still in the crew should have XP going toward the Crew's score. If a player plays 6 months gaining a ton of XP, but takes some time off, the leader would have to think twice about kicking them for being inactive and losing the XP they've accrued. Max Payne 3 may not get fixed, but I really hope they're taking notice of these things so they can put it forward into GTA V.
              • MAKAVELlon November 17 2012, 7:18pmReplyFlag
                also i had a long talk with lord they told me they "dont have enough people to play us in a 4v4" even tho they have 5 members also they are "on vacation" & "his dog was sick" well the patch is out n they still wont play us so maybe you can find us a diff clan to play on twitch
                • Cartoon_Badmanon November 18 2012, 2:33amReplyFlag
                  @MAKAVELl You didn't talk with Lord, you just resorted to calling people names, so don't try to play the maturity card.
                  You also have known modders in your crew so even if you did ask me, I wouldn't play you out of principle.

                  It's funny you got all high and mighty once everyone stopped playing the game. You were probably the worst player in your old crew, before you went crazy n kicked everyone, then left.

                  Oh, and Lostboyfound, I though we established you don't get paid to play computer games.

                • MAKAVELlon November 18 2012, 2:00pmReplyFlag
                  @Cartoon_Badman i am crazy and can back it up and if rockstar called our crew p***y wed play the guys just on that fact i think thats the best part "we fear for losers of red dead" they know what will happen just like you guys do so im done asking you guys well just have a grudge match with a diff crew oh and lmao @ modders thats the worst excuse since your dog was sick
                • Cartoon_Badmanon November 19 2012, 3:54amReplyFlag
                  @MAKAVELl Who used my dog as an excuse?! Not me matey.

                  You call us p u s s y, yet we had a feud the other day and you quit? Sound logic there. In fact, I have won every single feud against XSHX :/

                  I am referring to one of your members using a mod in GTA, it was said by two different people so I'm more inclined to believe them.
                  Plus, I remember some of the things you came out with to other players regarding lag, so there is another reason I wouldn't play half your roster. Remember we played alot of games. Heard alot of shxit.

                  Like I said, you weren't so mouthy when we were all playing most of the time. Hiding in TDM bashing nubs, whilst all the best crews were in GW.
                  You should beat us, considering most of you still play everyday and I play maybe a couple of times a month.

                  You should give this game a rest for just a few weeks mate, see if you feel happier. Real talk.
                • MAKAVELlon November 19 2012, 5:59pmReplyFlag
                  @Cartoon_Badman i dont have mods u guys change ur tags when u see us im 1-1 vs lord cause u guys had wispyjo give u kills it sad rockstar called u ---es even 4 months ago b4 u were even in lord when shnooby was in it they would change tags to troll we beat them so many times u guyg are scared simple as that just read older post "dont play sh" "we need more wins b4 playin good clans" u forget i have a capture card n have proof of all this b4 u even joined lmao the more u talk the more u come off scared 2 death so dont say "old days" n only respond if u want to play
                • Cartoon_Badmanon November 20 2012, 1:43amReplyFlag
                  @MAKAVELl To be fair, your criticisms are aimed at others so let's just leave that there. I don't even like Wispy (who lost feuds for REFX against you anyway)
                  My record against you lot is 3 - 0 under MVLG and REFX, I won't even count the LORD victory the other day. So I have nothing to prove. You're clutching at straws and it's hilarious.

                  Carry on beasting n00bs and doing what you have to do to win, I'm gona go out, I haven't got time to go back and forth with you.

                  Have fun getting angry over a video game.

                  x x
                • MAKAVELlon November 20 2012, 1:36pmReplyFlag
                  @Cartoon_Badman well play us on a diff tag then since lord knows youre trash and wont let you play on that tag youve never beat me in a fued so please dont make up lies and im not angry everyones laughing @ you and how you cant play on lord tag lmao you were trying to get down with sh but you couldnt cut it heres what i suggest whatever tag you want dont even care if its mp3 and well live stream it with or without rockstar let me know
                • Cartoon_Badmanon November 21 2012, 3:10amReplyFlag
                  @MAKAVELl LOL carry on you are like a 5 yr old, I beat you are spitting whilst you type.

                  If you have to resort to lies then we are done, I have thrown several facts at you, that have ignored.
                  I can play on whatever tag I choose, pleb.
                • MAKAVELlon November 21 2012, 3:13pmReplyFlag
                  @Cartoon_Badman 4v4 ur marvel clan then lmao marvel clan bunch of free kills we can live stream it too
              • R* Xon November 17 2012, 11:48amReplyFlag
                Our Devs are hopping online in the next hour to battle the Fear the Wrath Crew. Catch the action here:
                • lostboyfoundon November 16 2012, 7:21pmReplyFlag
                  i bet your really upset for some one WHO only plays rockstar games to NOT even be a top 5 ranked player ROCKSTAR even said it TEGC have THE TOP 3 RANKED PLAYERS IN TEAMDEATH MATCH i bet your upset i can understand how someone WHO ONLY PLAYS ROCKSTAR GAMES would be considering your rank and not getting (your name) in the news i bought my daughter a shetland last week from my money earned from playiing this game off youtube and i called it MAKAVELI THE ONE TRICK PONY
                  • MAKAVELlon November 16 2012, 5:37pmReplyFlag
                    rockstar ive never complained about anything on this game and ive had all my weapons taken down (.38 50 cal etc) even when people were invisible i would just vote for new maps and they would get kicked from lobby and i still never got some of my titles back and a few other things since reset i dont care about any of that PLEASE adjust the bomb suit its to protect players against rocket ---s but if you run into somebody from UK AUS GER CAN etc etc its like head to toe body armor please fix this issue
                    • lostboyfoundon November 16 2012, 7:33pmReplyFlag
                      @MAKAVELl MOAN MOAN PLEASE ADJUST THE BOMB SUIT ADJUST YOUR DUAL WEILDING SELF BLACK.OPS.AVELI you dont like the fact that unknown gamers came on to your scene and broke you .... as for you rockstar ( OUR TIME WILL COME ) any time you can get your teaboy and janitor dev crew back together you have my email so please dont hang about but in the mean time TEGC CREW as you miss spelled in your latest edotion of CREW CUT will be busy OWNING ON BLOPS email me when you want some tips on how to play your game .... loving you loving life loving being THE ELITE GAMER CREW
                    • MAKAVELlon November 16 2012, 7:57pmReplyFlag
                      @lostboyfound i use 1 pt92 idk why you care youre scared & so are the rest of the crews if u want we can do a free aim grudge match n have rockstar film it oh wait youre scared to death n talk about mw a game i dont own like woww mw lets go camp under trucks how fun f**k that 3rd time i only play rockstar game f**k army games
                    • R* Aon November 16 2012, 8:33pmReplyFlag
                      @MAKAVELl Settle this online in the game, guys - not in comments
                    • nMsDembekon May 17 2013, 8:22pmReplyFlag

                      You keep ducking I ask you're team for matches EVERYDAY. You didnit play GB because you would of been forced to play us!

                  • peawickoon November 16 2012, 1:56pmReplyFlag
                    im surprised by the amount of issues that we all have to endure 6 months after release! lol
                  • MAKAVELlon November 15 2012, 8:39pmReplyFlag
                    lol i only play rockstar games bro
                    • lostboyfoundon November 16 2012, 12:26pmReplyFlag
                      @MAKAVELl sounds like your scared to me bro what was it you said about 12 year olds to me a couple months ago and playing this game
                    • MAKAVELlon November 16 2012, 5:21pmReplyFlag
                      @lostboyfound its you're as in you are talking s**t but you cant beat us read above most feared team lmao the comment i made was 12 year olds play autoaim and for second time i only play rockstar games check my games played
                  • rtrickeyon November 15 2012, 7:44pmReplyFlag
                    I'm mostly annoyed I've never been the invisible player ;) jk
                    • ErnestoRockon November 15 2012, 4:11amReplyFlag
                      Is it just coincidence or does it seem that the players in MP3 are getting a less and less every day. The last 2 days i play gang wars with 5 or 6 players in the lobby.
                      • noclue_42on November 15 2012, 10:31amReplyFlag
                        @ErnestoRock you should ADD friends a lot to secure numbers for the long run. you happen to see people you haven't played with before? well, send out a friend request and you increased your chances of joining a match or getting one to join yours by 100 %. just yesterday i made 3 new friends and they all got the latest DLC. a triple win. now i can invite them to my session and/or hope for them to do the same. very often i join a game that a friend's in and pick it up from there. not using matchmaking that much these days.

                        gang wars has "never" really worked for me btw. at least not when i try to directly join. when i start the session myself it worked for hours with a full playerlist in 9 out of 10 cases. it sometimes worked by joining a friend ingame aswell, but not nearly as often as in cases where i started the GW myself from the ground up, in an empty lobby, waiting for players to join. so not that much GW for me lately, no new avatars there, no new maps - aside from the technical point of view, i have somewhat grown tired of it after 5 months. so i mostly play DM, TDM and payne killer these days.
                      • R* Yon November 15 2012, 7:30pmReplyFlag
                        @ErnestoRock Thanks for letting us know. We notice you're with five Crews. Do you usually get in on games with them, or maybe some of your friends? We recommend organizing some matches, maybe with another Crew. Also you can expect plenty of players online in the weeks ahead. We have a multiplayer event happening tomorrow and there's Triple XP live all weekend. Add onto that the fact that we recently released some new DLC and will be coming out with the remaining two multiplayer packs in the future. Still lots of Max Payne 3 multiplayer action to come!

                        @noclue_42 If a mode isn't working for you, our Support team wants to help sort it out. Please contact them so they can try to get your game running properly:
                    • KingKoshanon November 15 2012, 12:27amReplyFlag
                      How the hell does 1 get a "Host Migration failed" during bullet time? And "You have been removed due to connection problems" just after you've killed someone with nit 1 hint of lag or delay. At least match reports can show how many games you've not finished.. Sucks!
                    • BIGTIME213on November 14 2012, 10:48pmReplyFlag
                      BIG TIME STUNNAZ WEED CREW is hiring assassins who are dedicated mp3
                    • Autumnkillon November 14 2012, 8:03pmReplyFlag
                      Rockstar, it would be awesome if you make a lobby just for crew battling instead of always having to hunt for other crews when ever you felt like doing a fued.
                      • PreparedforWaron November 14 2012, 2:02pmReplyFlag
                        When are we going to get some news about the the last two Max Payne 3 DLCs?

                        I know everyone is focused on GTA V but its already mid Novemeber and all of the packs were supposed to be out in October and we still havent gotten any news about the Painful Memories and Deathmatch Made In Heaven DLCs. I bought the pass day one and can't wait to have the COOP mode as well as the new maps, The Hostage Negotiator pack was excellent especially Club Moderno and the Stadium so Im really looking forward to seeing what new DLC will bring. Will they even make it before the end of the year though? Since Halo and Black Ops came out full servers are already hard to find so Rockstar really needs to release this content while theres still people online to play it.

                        Anyone else hoping that the levels in the Painful Memories pack are throwbacks to Max Payne 1 and 2 like Aesyr Corp., Roscoe Street Station, the Police Station or the Parking Garage? They really have the potential to do some amazing things outside of the Favelas...
                        • noclue_42on November 14 2012, 4:55pmReplyFlag
                          @PreparedforWar i doubt we'll see a throwback to places like roscoe street, club ragna rock, or lupino's hotel. would be cool but i guess it's unlikely.

                          "getting flashbacks to that wedding we worked in aruba".
                          - "yeah back to the good ol days when i thought i might actually like this job"

                          that's from chapter 3. passos mentions that to max while they look for a medical kit to patch max together, who got shot at by the sniper. when i replayed that chapter i had the idea of "painful memories" being an episode of earlier jobs max and passos did for the Brancos.
                        • noclue_42on November 14 2012, 5:02pmReplyFlag
                          @noclue_42 "painful memories" could contain the COOP mode
                        • R* Yon November 14 2012, 5:17pmReplyFlag
                          @PreparedforWar Not to worry. We don't usually pre-announce when we're going to be posting specific articles, but we will have some details on the last two DLC packs coming up. Hope you're looking forward to them!
                        • PreparedforWaron November 14 2012, 7:17pmReplyFlag
                          @noclue_42 Ah man Ragnarok, I can't believe I forgot about that. That would be an AMAZING level although now that the Club Moderno level is out it would be kind of redundant. The hotel though, that would really be something. Glad to see another true fan of Payne out there who remembers the levels. You know what else I miss? The mod support. Dual Weapons mod, Payne Effects, all those matrix mods were classics. Almost as much as the game itself. Imagine what people would be able to do on 3s engine....
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