Rockstar Game Tips: Becoming an Ace Online Poker Player (Red Dead Redemption: Undead Nightmare Collection / Liars and Cheats Pack)

Posted on November 16 2010, 7:45pm | Author: R* Y | Filed Under: Social Club, Games
(Six gentlemen gather around a Poker table during a sunny afternoon under the shade of the gazebo in Beecher's Hope.)
With Red Dead Redemption: Undead Nightmare coming to stores on disc next week featuring all of the previously released Red Dead Redemption downloadable content in addition to the robust single-player and multiplayer of Undead Nightmare, there will be a whole lot of new players looking to go all-in online with the multiplayer Poker feature originally introduced with the Liars and Cheats Pack.  But of course, not everyone is a seasoned poker player who can come to the virtual table knowing all the rules and nuances of the game.  To help out those poker novices, here's some hopefully helpful details and pro tips on how to play in the world of Red Dead Redemption online.
Red Dead's Multiplayer Poker is a game for 2-6 players.  Be sure you know the hierarchy of poker hands so you can understand what beats what.  Table locations, order of rotation, and buy-in amounts are listed below.
  • Armadillo - $25
  • MacFarlane's Ranch - $10
  • Thieves' Landing - $25
  • Casa Madrugada - $50
  • Beecher's Hope - $100
Win at Poker by gaining all of the remaining chips on the table.  Before we get into the actual flow of the game, we're going to define a few terms so you won't be lost later on...
All-In: Betting all of your chips, or if you have more chips than everyone else, the all-in amount will match another player.
Blind: A certain amount of chips that some players are required to place on the table before anyone sees the cards they'll have in their hand.  No worries as the game takes care of the blinds process for you completely automatically.  Blinds increase as the game goes along to raise the stakes and so that the game doesn't go on for hours.  If you have less chips left for yourself than the required blind amount, the game automatically puts you all-in, so you better have a good hand.  The blinds at the higher buy-in tables can get pretty steep early on, so if you're a first time player or still learning the game, it's probably best to stay at the lower buy-in tables.
Call: Matching the current bet.  If there has been a bet of $10 and a raise of $10 then it costs $20 to call.
Check: If it's a player's turn to act and there hasn't been any action in front of them, the player can opt not to bet, but rather to 'check' (which is like betting 0).
Fold: To throw away your hand when it's your turn to act.  You're out until the next hand.
Hand: A new hand occurs every time a dealer deals out two cards for each player.
Pot: The total amount of chips that have been bet during one hand of cards.  This is displayed on the screen.
Raise: Placing a larger bet by putting down more chips than the previous person.
And now, here's the basics on how to play:
  1. At the beginning of a game for the first hand, a dealer deals out two cards for each player.  Other players do not know what cards you are holding at this time.
  2. After each person receives two cards, players begin to bet certain amounts of chips.  If they bet a lot (raise) or bet everything (all-in), they could be bluffing and might not have anything.  However, there's always the chance that they're holding a good hand already such as a pair of Kings or Aces.  On many hands, players more than often will call.
  3. Some players may decide that they don't feel confident in their first two cards, such as a 2 of Spades and a 4 of Hearts, so they'll quit out of this early hand by folding.  Folding only keeps you from playing in the current hand.  It does not remove you from the game entirely.

(If you're the kind that looks at your cards repeatedly, do it every hand and stay consistent - or others will think something is fishy.)
  1. After each player has chosen to call, raise or fold, three cards are dealt into the middle of the table.  If you're holding in your hand a King and a 2, and on the table there's a 3, a King and an Ace, you currently have a pair of Kings.  That's not bad.  You could raise your bet now with some confidence.  If you go all-in, you'll keep other players from being able to see the two remaining cards that will later be dealt separately onto the table.  If you do decide to do this, other players will now only have two options: they'll go all-in as well or they'll fold.  However, there's an Ace on the table, and someone could be holding an Ace.  Your pair of Kings is no match for a pair of Aces.
  2. Assuming no one went all-in, and after all players have chosen to callraise or fold, a fourth card will be placed in the middle of the table.  It's another King, and you now have Three of a Kind with three Kings.  The cards on the table are now a 3, a King, an Ace and a King.  If another player is holding an Ace and a King, they'll have a Full House which would beat your Three of a Kind.  Another round of betting takes place.
  3. After each player sees the fourth card and chooses to checkcallraise or fold, a fifth and final card is dealt onto the table.  It's a 5.  You're holding in your hand a King and a 2, and the table has a 3, a King, an Ace, a King and a 5.  You still have a Three of a Kind with Kings.  Still a good hand, but be wary that someone else might have that Full House.  Everyone checks, calls, raises or folds.  It's time to see what everyone has in their hands.  Cards are flipped over and the winner is awarded all of the chips that were bet.
  4. New cards are dealt and the process repeats until there is only one person with chips.
Some things to note:
  • Players that go all-in with all of their chips and lose are out of the game.  They can choose to sit and wait for a new game to load, or they can leave the table by choosing an option from the multiplayer playlist.
  • If a player goes all-in with an amount smaller than others before the end of the hand, a separate amount of money is awarded (side pot) followed by the amount bet after they went all-in (main pot).
  • If two or more players have the same hand with the same high card, they all get equal amounts (split pot).
  • If one player is holding a 7 and an Ace and another is holding a 7 and a 10, and both end up with a pair of 7's at the end of the hand, the first person will receive all of the chips since he has the higher card in hand.
  • If all players other than you fold, the game will by default not show your cards.  You can, however, flip your cards over when the prompt comes on the screen.
  • Players that can't afford a buy-in will be given $200 every 24 real world hours.  See here for more on how this works. 
And finally for some tips...
  • Unless you have a really good first hand (example: two Kings or two Aces) before the three cards are dealt onto the middle of the table, it's probably not wise to go all-in.

(If you're going all-in, you better be confident in your hand or that your bluff will succeed.  It's best to go all-in early in the hand.)
  • If you're down to a small amount of chips and other players aren't doing too bad, stay mildly aggressive.  Giving in and folding too much will let them know you're being honest about what's in your hand, and will likely cause a downward spiral leading to you having zero chips.
  • Play it tight, not giving away too much when starting games out.  That way you won't give away any hints to other players, as well as keep your money.
  • View your cards only one time at the beginning of each and every hand to stay consistent with your looking.  If you don't look at your first three hands and then suddenly you're glancing at your fourth hand several times, other players will get the idea that something's up.  Plus remember that when it's your turn to bet or fold at the table, you will be able to see your cards from behind.
  • If you're the chip leader (the one with the most chips at the table) you can bully people by making increasingly higher bets to force a player to show their cards or fold.
  • Players that choose to bet 0 chips (check) later on in each hand likely means they aren't very confident in their hands.
  • Note how long it takes for players to decide what to bet as it could let you know their level of confidence in their hand.
  • Don't stay in on a hand just because you've already put in a good amount of chips.  If you don't have anything, the odds are against you.
  • Don't bluff all-in unless you know your opponents well and you've built up a reputation over at least a few hands.  While it might seem clever to randomly go all-in even when you don't have anything, the odds are against you.  Bluffing all-in makes things more exciting, but that excitement could go away in a matter of seconds if someone calls you on it.
  • And speaking of bluffing, players could be using just about any aspect of the game, and that includes looking at their cards a lot to make others think they've got something.  Stay on your toes.
Let us know if any of you have additional Poker tips below, and be on the lookout for more in our Game Tips series in the future.
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  • R* Yon January 26 2011, 12:05pmReplyFlag
    Thanks guys for the extra tips.
    • jarrjamon January 24 2011, 11:16pmReplyFlag
      ive got a tip for poker:
      if ur playing poker with 1 other player, u can count how many chips they have by adding the chips everyone had at the start. eg; if u and the other player started off with 500 chips, the total would be 1000.
      minus ur chips off the total. if the other player has from 1-100 chips and u have a good card, make him bet all in.
      • scareface1970on November 19 2010, 1:10pmReplyFlag
        is it true is there a zombie free roam comming up
        I heard this somewhere
        sorry Rock for of topic but i don't now where i must put this question
        • Le-Rockon November 18 2010, 6:50pmReplyFlag
          I agree with STOFFER222

          Casual aiming should be completely deleted from Red Dead. This is about Western. This is about GUNSLINGERS !! Is Harmonica using casual aiming in "Once Upon a Time in the West" ? No, he use SKILLS !!!!!!
          Go hardcore Stronghold, hardcore Legends & Killers maps or even Horsesraces, there is NOBODY !! Just one or two dudes if you are lucky !! No glory for killing someone with casual in my opinion.....
          I play hardcore only since the beginning, too bad all skilled players gone for CoD OPS.
          Hope the release of Undead ---htmare on BlueRay will bring a lot of new skilled players !!
          • Mac_Madon November 18 2010, 5:14pmReplyFlag
            Thanks, but I did yet.. :I
            • STOFFER222on November 18 2010, 4:49pmReplyFlag
              I Think that people that want to prestige should have to be forced to start using normal aiming because i am tiered of people running around free roam with level 5 prestige on casual thinking that they are all that If they have played that much to get that high i think they are good enough to start using normal aiming

              To me seeing a level 5 prestige running around using casual is just a joke

              Hard core has their own free roam what about people like me that can't stand casual people

              May be this is something that you think about for your next MP game
              • Le-Rockon November 18 2010, 2:01pmReplyFlag
                Nice tips R*

                Will there be some tips for Liar's Dice ? Because i have some difficulties with it >_
                • Tom543on November 18 2010, 11:16amReplyFlag
                  Rockstar, I think it would be a good idea if you would label where our friends are at on our friends list so we don't have to request an invite, or they don't have to invite us; we could just join whatever game mode they are playing. I know there are multiple sessions in each mode, but if you keep changing sessions, you will eventually catch up to them. Sometimes people get distracted and miss an invite, or they forgot they received an invite. It also is helpful when say someone is playing stronghold and you are in gang shootout, you know that they are probably not going to accept the invite because their not playing shootout at the time, and it saves the time of wasting invites.
                  • vivivlyon November 17 2010, 10:57pmReplyFlag
                    It would be neat if Rockstar added to the psn title on the xmb of RedDeadRedemption - Poker. Like having a status of what your doing in-game other examples :

                    RedDeadRedemption - Free roam
                    RedDeadRedemption - Undead overrun
                    RedDeadRedemption - Grand Prix
                    • UpNSmoke225on November 17 2010, 5:12pmReplyFlag
                      my tip for poker (and this will also work for Dice) is to never do the same thing twice..unless you WANT them to think you do a certain 'tell' all the time. If you've bluffed everyone out the hand for instance, show your cards. But never do it again. Next bluff go cold. On winning hands you NEVER want them to see your cards, so make them pay to see it. Betting is the main thing that will get yourself caught in the cookie jar, so be sparatic, yet smart about it. Dont bluff all your chips away on garbage that someone beats with a small pair. Think bout how you're going to play the hand before even ante up.
                      • UpNSmoke225on November 17 2010, 4:05pmReplyFlag
                        @OptionalZero - why does it have to be hardcore...i mean if they are gonna make an Undead Free Roam why wouldn't they give you the option to choose your aiming preference. How bout this...a Friendly Undead Free Roam, where you can choose to play with any aim? I say friendly free roam because it would make more sense for the players to unite against the undead. I say ANY aiming preference because it'd be ridiculous to have it only for hardcore. tired of all this Hardcore Elitism
                        • R* Yon November 17 2010, 2:57pmReplyFlag
                          @Mac_Mad Sure, shoot a message to and we'll look into your issue.
                          • stingray1980on November 17 2010, 2:22pmReplyFlag
                            I've been playing alot of poker after the release of the savy merchant outfit i had a gamble loss of -$1000 so i spent alot of time in Blackwater winning back my money
                            • Mac_Madon November 17 2010, 2:02pmReplyFlag

                              Are you working to repair the glitch in poker? When I play online, sometimes some players are invisible. And then, when all players go to play, the poker game can't be loaded and appears a message of error. It happens since Undead ---htmare was released.. (??????)
                              • OptionalZeroon November 17 2010, 1:40pmReplyFlag
                                @R* I know this is off topic, but really R* is there ANY hope of Hardcore Undead FreeRoam? Truly this is the only thing I am hoping for any more. Hell if it was done right with towns to save and Fort Mercer and El Presido as "Safe zones" or "Neutral Zones" were all player could find safe haven (as long as they don't kill each other)... I'd be willing to pay 20$ just for that. I love RDR, love the online...

                                Hardcore Undead FreeRoam, please? Please? Anything? Any response?
                                • erdvillaon November 17 2010, 12:44pmReplyFlag
                                  Pa-pa-pa-Poker Ace trophy/Achive its one of the most annoying ones.... unless you find 5 players willing to cooperate and 1 of them willing to spend 30 minutes with you in order to get it, then its a really Easy Silver trophy. The first weeks when L&C DLC came out almost anybody got it, then some people figured out the best method and now almost everyone has it XD
                                  • El_Bandido_RDRon November 17 2010, 11:49amReplyFlag
                                    how half the people play poker in this game:

                                    • El_Bandido_RDRon November 17 2010, 11:45amReplyFlag
                                      "oh look, I've got a pair of twos and another pair of twos... is that good?"
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